Tuesday, January 26, 2010

Question from Sasha - Living descendants of Henry VII and Elizabeth of York

I know there are no decendants of Henry VIII on record. I would like to know are there any direct decendants of Henry VII & Elizabeth of York? Birth records seem to cease at a certain piont. If there are do they hold any titles?

32 comments:

Lara said...

Off the top of my head, I know of one for sure - Queen Elizabeth II! Here's her line of descent from them: http://tudorhistory.org/trees/er2.html So most (if not all) of the living British royals are going to have some connection to Henry VII and Elizabeth of York.

There are several other lines of descent to today, including some from Mary Tudor. One line that I can think of quickly is from the marriage of Catherine Grey (granddaughter of Mary Tudor) and Edward Seymour. Their descendants are still the Dukes of Somerset today.

Joycem said...

I worked for a Yorkshire family last name Milne-Coates also Milne-Gaskell was told they could trace liniage back to Mary Tudor sister of Henry VIII dont know if it was through Frances Brandon or her sister. I did google a webside on decendents of Mary Tudor Queen of France and it did show this family being decendents

Marilyn R said...

You get some interesting results by looking at the descendants of illegitimate children of the various monarchs, remembering that, as Lara has already pointed out, all monarchs and their children since the time of King James I to the present day are descended from Henry VII through his daughter Margaret, the grandmother of King James’s mother, Mary Queen of Scots.

James’s grandson, Charles II, had 14 children, unfortunately none of them to his wife! Diana Princess of Wales was descended from Charles II and Barbara Villiers, Duchess of Cleveland, while the Dukes of St Albans stem from Charles II and the actress and former orange seller, Eleanor(Nell) Gwyn.

Charles II was followed by his brother as James II. He was the father of the Queens Mary II and Anne, both of whom had no surviving children, but James II also had another large family with his second wife, as well as a number of children to mistresses – all these children were descended from Henry VII & Elizabeth of York. Several would survive to produce large families themselves, often having married relatives also descended from Henry VII.

Nearer our own times King William IV, one of Queen Victoria’s uncles, had 10 children with the actress Dorothea Jordan while he was still Duke of Clarence. Their daughter Elizabeth Fitzclarence is an ancestor of David Cameron the current Leader of the Conservative Party (the next Prime Minister?), whose wife Samantha Sheffield is descended from Charles II and Nell Gwyn.

These are just a few examples amongst what must be several thousand descendants of Henry VII and his wife.

Evelyn said...

Hmmm.. what about Henry's illegitamite son,someone fitzroy can't remember his name, but perhaps there could
be some living decendets from him?

Lara said...

Fitzroy isn't known to have had any kids - he died pretty young at 17.

kb said...

It is possible that Henry Fitzroy died a virgin. There is some indications that he and his wife, Mary Howard daughter of the 3rd Duke of Norfolk, were deliberately kept apart to avoid pregnancy. Any child from this union would have presented a serious challenge to the succession. Although the official reason was the couple's youth. They were both 14 when they married.

Mary Howard was a very strong and vocal member of the elite. She embraced the Reformation and argued forcefully for Henry VIII to pay her dower payments, threatening her father if he did not pursue her financial rights diligently enough.

Henry Fitzroy died 22 July 1536 at age 17 as Lara said. Mary died 9 Dec 1557 at the age of 38. She never remarried. Although there were multiple schemes for various candidates she refused them all.

Cockneywebel said...

Every English monarch since James I has been a direct descendant of Mary, Queen of Scots, great-grandaughter of Henry VII so yes, there are plenty of descendants of Henry VII and Elizabeth of York through that line via their daughter Margaret.

Also, their other daughter Mary Tudor had a daughter Frances Brandon, mother of Lady Jane Grey. Jane's younger sister Katherine had two sons, the elder of whom had several children. Queen Elizabeth II is also a descendant of this line of the family through her mother, the late Queen Elizabeth, the Queen Mother.

kristin said...

I'm a living direct descendant of Henry VII and Elizabeth of York. I only hold the title of student, mom, and wife ;)

jaygos said...

Hi Sasha,
Henry VII is my 3rd Cousin 16 times removed. I am related to him via HenrY V's Mother Mary De Bohun.

Jaygos

Jake Laughton said...

Dear Sasha, there are many descendants mostly illegitimate in lineage, however one line is not illegitimate and its existence has been covered up for 300 years with lies and falsified facts. John Robert Layton of Scranton, Pa is the heir to the throne of King James II and VII. Layton is best known as Prince John of Rohan and the Titular King of England and Scotland. All claims that he is not real or legitimate pale in truth when it is not widely known that as of today he and his family are on forced exile and forbidden from traveling to England and Scotland under penalty of imprisonment. there are several bios out on the subject including "From Charlemagne to Prince John: The Greatest Royal Lineage in Human History" on Amazon and Kindle! Just 99 cents on Kindle! Over 318 pages of genealogy charts and solid proof that he is indeed the real King.

smokey said...

hi there i have quite a few royals in my my family i have tudors welsh german scottish and s saxon princess in the family i also have an archbishop of york i have family burried in westminster abby i have family from midevil to revolutionary war. civil war. world war one and two

smokey said...

hi i also have welsh royalty german royalty scottish english tudor and a saxon princess i have family burried in westminster abby and ihave a archbisop that was in british parliment one my family in wales wouldnt pay hommage to edward so he killed him and conquered wales and stoled my code of arms that they still possess to this day

Peasant said...

Henry VII's daughter Margaret married James IV of Scotland, their son James V was a prolific produce of documented illigitimate children - many of whom
were given titles - I, myself, descend from one of these bastards as do no doubt thousands of others, I've no idea how common descent from Henry VII is, but I'm from a typical working class scottish background.

Anonymous said...

I am a direct descendant of the Bruce family. If you check the Shetland Family History, you may find something interesting there.

Anonymous said...

I just found out through my families genealogy research that King Henry VII is my 16th great grandfather through his daughter, Margaret. Found some other interesting royal names in that research also.

Anonymous said...

I am a 24th grandson of them through King John. My family comes through a female offspring of his who married into the Berkley family. A latter daughter married Samuel Wynne and came to Philadelphia. From there the line comes through my maternal grandmother.

Anonymous said...

Medieval spelling, I see .

Hayley Young said...

I am a living decendant of Mary Boleyn - she was Henry viii's mistress for a good while, and she was my 13th Great grandmother. Rumour has it that her son Henry was actually the illegitimate son of Henry viii - and portraits of him at the time do seem to suggest a family resemblance. If this is indeed true ( as most academics agree) then that would make Henry Viii my 13th Great grandfather. So where the heck is my inheritance? I want my castles back! Thinking of doing a game of thrones and coming back from New Zealand to claim my throne. Who will support me?

Anonymous said...

I am a descendant of Katherine Grey through the Seymours and the Earls of Winchelsea. Henry VIII's will indicated that after his son Edward, his younger sister's line should inherit. Edward affirmed this before he died. When Lady Jane was executed, her sister's line became the legitimate one. Mary , Elizabeth, the Stuarts and especially that Hanoverian lot are all usurpers.

Anonymous said...

I have only just started to trace my family tree. I have only reached the late 1700s on my mother's Welsh side but have come across a Mary Tudor. I would love to know if this line actually goes back to the Tudors but I have reached a blank. Any suggestions?

Anonymous said...

I am a direct decedent from Henry VII through Mary Queen of France Frances Grey and Katherine Grey, on to my paternal Great Grandmother, Miss Pigott Brown. Through my other Paternal Great Grandmother, a Howard, that line goes to the Boleyns, thus making me pretty closely related to Elizabeth I, well closer than most others! More recently, my great great grandmother is rumoured to be an illegitimate daughter of Edward VII, one of the many

Anonymous said...

I am a descendant of king Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon.

Baelon said...

Hi, after my Grandmother was telling me that we were decedent of Henry VII, I too went online to search this. Apparently we are decedent to Henry through his daughter Mary. I'm not entirely sure, but I do know that the Seymours descend directly through this line, and tracing my family tree back their is evidence of this possibly through a man named Robert Seymour, my 7th Great Grandfather. But I can't find anymore info about him. I'm guessing he's the same Robert Seymour, son of Lord William Seymour. That would be pretty neat if it were so.

Hope this helps any. I'm still working this out myself, it all fascinates me greatly.

Anonymous said...

Interestingly, while doing a family tree through ancestry.com, I found that Rev. Sir Richard Edwards is my 12th great grandfather in a direct family line... which makes Henry VII my 13th great grandfather!
Sir Richard Edwards is the illegitimate son of Henry VII and his mistress Agnes Blewitt... apparently.

Diorelli said...

@Anonymous

You mean Henry VIII's mistress Agnes Blewitt.

Henry VII had no mistresses.

Suzanne Kovach said...

My family has always been interested in our heritage and we recently found out that we are descendants of Mary, Queen of Scots and King James I, through my Great-Grandmother who is a Shelton. We have always known that we had Scotch-Irish and English heritage, but didn't know through which relative. It is very interesting and special, indeed. Today as I type this, it is March 22, 2014. I know there are many descendants from this line, but it is still interesting and fun to find out this information...has made me want to look up more information on this family.

Max-e said...

My wife is descended from Henry vii and Elizabeth of York. She has a family tree that traces the lineage all the way down to her - but no titles.

I wrote a post on my own blog about her link to Catherine Grey a while back - http://themaxefiles.blogspot.com/2010/11/life-with-suzie-you-cant-stop-love.html

Jennifer said...

Henry VII and Elizabeth of York are my 17th great grandparents on my family tree. I am a direct descendant of their daughter Mary Tudor and Mary's daughter Frances Brandon. The line arrives in the MA colony and continues to reside in New England today.

Barbara Kim Thigpen said...

Yes; the king [& Elizabeth] is my 16th Great~grandfather: Tudor, King Earl Henry VII daughter Tudor, Queen Princess Margaret son Stewart, King James V Knight of the Garter son Stewart of Moray, King Regent Earl Prior James VI Good Regent of Scotland daughter Stewart of Moray, Countess Elizabeth son Stewart of Moray, Lord Earl James `the Bonny Earl` daughter Stewart, Mary son Grant, Laird Ludovic son Grant, David son Grant, Planter Sargeant William daughter Grant, Clementine `Clemy` daughter Musick, Susanna Grant daughter Bowman, Sarah Grant daughter Buxton, Marcella Bowman daughter Knox, Mary Virginia son Deason, Edward Adelbert son Deason, Sydney Doyle daughter Deason, Barbara Gail daughter Thigpen, Barbara Kim

Anonymous said...

This is all very confusing for me. My 16x's great grandfather is William Barns who married Dorothy Drury who was the Daughter of Robert Drury who was married to Ann Stapelton who was the daughter of Cathrine De pole. Well How does my line fall into a connection of the house of Winsor? Cousins? There is steps and in laws and grand parents of husbands. Thank you.

Mary Annthipie Bane said...

According to ancestry.com I am descended from Henry VII through an illegitimate son Sir Roland de Vielville - it's all very interesting, making Henry my 15th great grandfather.

NorCalJoe66 Wood said...

I have been on ancestry for a while, I was always told we had royalty in our family. I was floored yesterday when I found out that William the Conqueror and Maud are my 28th Generation grandparents. But I guess there are tens of thousands of living relatives who have never been invited to any royal parties.